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		<title>By: The Misnaged</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2858</link>
		<dc:creator>The Misnaged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comment about this on AJN Watch
http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/2009/07/ajn-hypocrisy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comment about this on AJN Watch<br />
<a href="http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/2009/07/ajn-hypocrisy.html" class="ext-link" rel="external" target="_blank">http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/2009/07/ajn-hypocrisy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Galus Australis &#187; Say it, don&#8217;t spray it</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>Galus Australis &#187; Say it, don&#8217;t spray it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when we begin to unpack the quality of reporting on an issue, we are privy to a variety of components, which all add (or subtract) value from the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when we begin to unpack the quality of reporting on an issue, we are privy to a variety of components, which all add (or subtract) value from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SBA</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>SBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Mex Cooper of The Age spoke first to me and took all the details and she had (at least) 2 versions of the story on the website - with no mention of Leifer. Later on Barney Zwartz called us and wanted to know details on Jewish law and tradition re death and funerals.

Seeing that Zwartz was involved with the Age&#039;s front page (and page 2) story on Leifer at the time, I presume that it is his contribution to the Rotenberg story.

Totally irrelevant, but then so was 3/4 of the original Leifer story where they depicted the Adass community as a cross between a cannibal tribe in New Guinea and the Exclusive Brethren.

(Though admittedly The Age only had the Leifer story for one day - while the Jewish News dragged it out for 3 or 4 weeks.)

&lt;em&gt;From Galus Australis: the identity and contact details of this commenter have been disclosed to the editors.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Mex Cooper of The Age spoke first to me and took all the details and she had (at least) 2 versions of the story on the website &#8211; with no mention of Leifer. Later on Barney Zwartz called us and wanted to know details on Jewish law and tradition re death and funerals.</p>
<p>Seeing that Zwartz was involved with the Age&#8217;s front page (and page 2) story on Leifer at the time, I presume that it is his contribution to the Rotenberg story.</p>
<p>Totally irrelevant, but then so was 3/4 of the original Leifer story where they depicted the Adass community as a cross between a cannibal tribe in New Guinea and the Exclusive Brethren.</p>
<p>(Though admittedly The Age only had the Leifer story for one day &#8211; while the Jewish News dragged it out for 3 or 4 weeks.)</p>
<p><em>From Galus Australis: the identity and contact details of this commenter have been disclosed to the editors.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Gary Mallin</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Mallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a senior journalist at The Age. I am Jewish. The Age does some good things and some bad things. Lumping Rotenberg and Leifer was probably at the lower end of the scale, shall we say.
But there are many steps (mostly made by humans) between author and reader you may not be aware of that may help you understand why common sense gets left behind sometimes, while the express speeds through the station.
I would love to explain it to you. Drop me a line at gmallin@theage.com.au

&lt;em&gt;From Galus Australis: Read Gary Mallin&#039;s follow-up post &lt;a href=&quot;http://galusaustralis.com/2009/08/not-the-dearborn-independent/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a senior journalist at The Age. I am Jewish. The Age does some good things and some bad things. Lumping Rotenberg and Leifer was probably at the lower end of the scale, shall we say.<br />
But there are many steps (mostly made by humans) between author and reader you may not be aware of that may help you understand why common sense gets left behind sometimes, while the express speeds through the station.<br />
I would love to explain it to you. Drop me a line at <a href="mailto:gmallin@theage.com.au">gmallin@theage.com.au</a></p>
<p><em>From Galus Australis: Read Gary Mallin&#8217;s follow-up post <a href="http://galusaustralis.com/2009/08/not-the-dearborn-independent/" class="local-link">here</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: eli</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2799</link>
		<dc:creator>eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have passed on the link to this discussion to a friend of mine who is a sub editor at the Age , for his thoughts.

&lt;em&gt;From The Hasid: Thank you, eli.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have passed on the link to this discussion to a friend of mine who is a sub editor at the Age , for his thoughts.</p>
<p><em>From The Hasid: Thank you, eli.</em></p>
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		<title>By: frosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>frosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please consider the following hypothetical news report:

&lt;i&gt;Tristian McPharwick, who was in Australia on holiday from the British Isles, was killed in a traffic accident.  Mr McPharwick’s wife is a citizen of Austria, a rather peculiar country in central Europe.  Austria was in the headlines last year when one of its citizens, Joseph Fritzl, kept his own daughter  a prisoner in his basement for several years, raping her, and fathering…&lt;/i&gt;


I just can’t see &lt;i&gt;The Age&lt;/i&gt; reporting the death of the fictional Tristian McPharwick as per the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please consider the following hypothetical news report:</p>
<p><i>Tristian McPharwick, who was in Australia on holiday from the British Isles, was killed in a traffic accident.  Mr McPharwick’s wife is a citizen of Austria, a rather peculiar country in central Europe.  Austria was in the headlines last year when one of its citizens, Joseph Fritzl, kept his own daughter  a prisoner in his basement for several years, raping her, and fathering…</i></p>
<p>I just can’t see <i>The Age</i> reporting the death of the fictional Tristian McPharwick as per the above.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasid</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2789</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting development: The Age&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/national/respected-jewish-leader-dies-after-collision-with-motorcycle-20090723-du92.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;online version&lt;/a&gt; of the article is substantially different to the print version, with no mention of Leifer and greater emphasis on the actual accident.

I wonder when it was changed, and by whom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting development: The Age&#8217;s <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/respected-jewish-leader-dies-after-collision-with-motorcycle-20090723-du92.html" class="ext-link" rel="external" target="_blank">online version</a> of the article is substantially different to the print version, with no mention of Leifer and greater emphasis on the actual accident.</p>
<p>I wonder when it was changed, and by whom?</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasid</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/868/the-age-stuffs-up-again/#comment-2787</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;jewinthefat&lt;/strong&gt; - yes and no. I don&#039;t really see how linking Rotenberg and Leifer contextualises the story, beyond reinforcing the stereotype of ultra-Orthodox Jews as exotic and &#039;other&#039; and somehow prone to... strange events...? (Sorry, I&#039;m struggling to find the right word!) But you are right - non-Anglo ethnicity is very often factored into news stories when it isn&#039;t relevant to the actual incident/event. (I can&#039;t comment on the &lt;em&gt;Hack&lt;/em&gt; program you&#039;re referring to because I haven&#039;t heard it.) Though my gut feeling is that it happens more with Orthodox Jews (and even non-Orthodox Jews) than almost any other ethnicity. How many times did we see Bernie Madoff described a &quot;Jewish financier&quot;? [Although that feeling could perhaps be a result of the fact that, as a Jew, I tend to read a lot of articles about other Jews and have a heightened sensitivity to these things. Perhaps a Vietnamese-Australian or Lebanese-Australian would say the same thing about the portrayal of their community. Still, I reckon Jews are hit with stereotype stick more than any other ethnic group.]

&lt;strong&gt;DW&lt;/strong&gt; - Yes, the corruption arrests were generally covered quite poorly. It&#039;s a trickier situation though, because the rabbis involved used the privilege and trust conferred by their religious vocation to facilitate their crimes. So reporting on their Jewishness is somewhat relevant - it then becomes a question as to what extent it should be emphasised, and how. The line is subtle indeed and it&#039;s very easy to cross it into conspiracy-land. It&#039;s a similar situation to when someone tells a &lt;em&gt;vaguely&lt;/em&gt; distasteful, misogynistic [or racist, insert discrimination of choice here] joke. If you&#039;re offended by it, you must not have a sense of humour and you&#039;re &quot;overreacting&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>jewinthefat</strong> &#8211; yes and no. I don&#8217;t really see how linking Rotenberg and Leifer contextualises the story, beyond reinforcing the stereotype of ultra-Orthodox Jews as exotic and &#8216;other&#8217; and somehow prone to&#8230; strange events&#8230;? (Sorry, I&#8217;m struggling to find the right word!) But you are right &#8211; non-Anglo ethnicity is very often factored into news stories when it isn&#8217;t relevant to the actual incident/event. (I can&#8217;t comment on the <em>Hack</em> program you&#8217;re referring to because I haven&#8217;t heard it.) Though my gut feeling is that it happens more with Orthodox Jews (and even non-Orthodox Jews) than almost any other ethnicity. How many times did we see Bernie Madoff described a &#8220;Jewish financier&#8221;? [Although that feeling could perhaps be a result of the fact that, as a Jew, I tend to read a lot of articles about other Jews and have a heightened sensitivity to these things. Perhaps a Vietnamese-Australian or Lebanese-Australian would say the same thing about the portrayal of their community. Still, I reckon Jews are hit with stereotype stick more than any other ethnic group.]</p>
<p><strong>DW</strong> &#8211; Yes, the corruption arrests were generally covered quite poorly. It&#8217;s a trickier situation though, because the rabbis involved used the privilege and trust conferred by their religious vocation to facilitate their crimes. So reporting on their Jewishness is somewhat relevant &#8211; it then becomes a question as to what extent it should be emphasised, and how. The line is subtle indeed and it&#8217;s very easy to cross it into conspiracy-land. It&#8217;s a similar situation to when someone tells a <em>vaguely</em> distasteful, misogynistic [or racist, insert discrimination of choice here] joke. If you&#8217;re offended by it, you must not have a sense of humour and you&#8217;re &#8220;overreacting&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Werdiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Werdiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The attack on Barker was reported accurately - I was in Jerusalem at the time - those protests were another huge &lt;em&gt;chilul Hashem&lt;/em&gt; *sigh*.

There should be a reasonable test for what news is &quot;surprising and curious&quot;. How many times in the last year have the attackers been Moslems, and how many times have they been Jewish? As Jackie Mason says: &quot;nobody ever crossed the street to avoid a group of Jewish accountants&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The attack on Barker was reported accurately &#8211; I was in Jerusalem at the time &#8211; those protests were another huge <em>chilul Hashem</em> *sigh*.</p>
<p>There should be a reasonable test for what news is &#8220;surprising and curious&#8221;. How many times in the last year have the attackers been Moslems, and how many times have they been Jewish? As Jackie Mason says: &#8220;nobody ever crossed the street to avoid a group of Jewish accountants&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jewinthefat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jewinthefat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, Joseph Wakim has the same thesis - but in reverse: 

&quot;Indeed, an Aussie woman was attacked by a Jewish mob this month in Jerusalem. Journalist Anne Barker - who is the ABC&#039;s Middle East correspondent - recounts her ordeal when she attempted to use her microphone and recorder to report on a local protest.

The protest in question was against the local council&#039;s decision to allow a car-park to open on Saturdays, &quot;to accommodate the increasing number of tourists visiting Jerusalem&#039;s Old City&quot;. This decision would encourage people to drive, which in turn breaks the rules of the Shabbat, the Jewish day of rest. 

This journalist claims that she dressed conservatively but her recorder unleashed the fury of the mob of ultra-Orthodox Jews who allegedly targeted her for desecrating the Shabbat when ultra-Orthodox Jews believe modern technologies should not be used, although non-Jews should be exempt from this. Barker was sprayed with verbal abuse and saturated with saliva from the spitting attackers...

...If Barker&#039;s published ordeal was carried out by Muslim attackers it becomes more palatable as a familiar dish: in an Islamic setting the outrage seems obvious. But because the spitting came from Jewish mouths, we are supposed to be surprised and curious.&quot;


http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2633291.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, Joseph Wakim has the same thesis &#8211; but in reverse: </p>
<p>&#8220;Indeed, an Aussie woman was attacked by a Jewish mob this month in Jerusalem. Journalist Anne Barker &#8211; who is the ABC&#8217;s Middle East correspondent &#8211; recounts her ordeal when she attempted to use her microphone and recorder to report on a local protest.</p>
<p>The protest in question was against the local council&#8217;s decision to allow a car-park to open on Saturdays, &#8220;to accommodate the increasing number of tourists visiting Jerusalem&#8217;s Old City&#8221;. This decision would encourage people to drive, which in turn breaks the rules of the Shabbat, the Jewish day of rest. </p>
<p>This journalist claims that she dressed conservatively but her recorder unleashed the fury of the mob of ultra-Orthodox Jews who allegedly targeted her for desecrating the Shabbat when ultra-Orthodox Jews believe modern technologies should not be used, although non-Jews should be exempt from this. Barker was sprayed with verbal abuse and saturated with saliva from the spitting attackers&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;If Barker&#8217;s published ordeal was carried out by Muslim attackers it becomes more palatable as a familiar dish: in an Islamic setting the outrage seems obvious. But because the spitting came from Jewish mouths, we are supposed to be surprised and curious.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2633291.htm" class="ext-link" rel="external" target="_blank">http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2633291.htm</a></p>
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