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		<title>By: Galus Australis &#187; Academic boycotts of Israel are part of the problem not the solution</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-4519</link>
		<dc:creator>Galus Australis &#187; Academic boycotts of Israel are part of the problem not the solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: frosh</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3996</link>
		<dc:creator>frosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake Lynch,

I was hoping that by now you would have attempted to answer the question I put to you a couple of days ago. 

The questions seem to be quite essential to your position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake Lynch,</p>
<p>I was hoping that by now you would have attempted to answer the question I put to you a couple of days ago. </p>
<p>The questions seem to be quite essential to your position.</p>
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		<title>By: frosh</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3995</link>
		<dc:creator>frosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chook,

My understanding is that it is NOT only you.  This is a typical complaint about that particular website.  

While it is admittedly impossible for us to verify to what degree censorship takes place on other websites, rest assured that we at Galus do not have such a policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chook,</p>
<p>My understanding is that it is NOT only you.  This is a typical complaint about that particular website.  </p>
<p>While it is admittedly impossible for us to verify to what degree censorship takes place on other websites, rest assured that we at Galus do not have such a policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chook</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3993</link>
		<dc:creator>Chook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it only me, because every time I post a comment on Loewenstein&#039;s web page having a bit of a go at the poor old persecuted dear, it disappears. Come on Loewenstein fair go mate, what ever happened to the free speech you constantly bang on about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it only me, because every time I post a comment on Loewenstein&#8217;s web page having a bit of a go at the poor old persecuted dear, it disappears. Come on Loewenstein fair go mate, what ever happened to the free speech you constantly bang on about.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSadducee</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3965</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSadducee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon

I&#039;m not sure but I think Lynch was suggesting that he wasn&#039;t oblivious to human rights abuses in Iraq etc while boycotting S Africa which indicates that he was concerned.  

Anyway, to respond to your point about why they should have been concerned - simply because if you have a respect for human rights it should be applied to all people, not selectively.  If you are going to take a moral/ethical stand then you need to apply it fairly and equitably.  

Human rights activism shouldn&#039;t be like a candy store - people picking their personal favourites and ignoring the ones they don&#039;t like.  Nor should the argument of not being able to address all issues be used - what criteria is used (which is moral/ethicial) to then determine who gets priority?  

Israel wouldn&#039;t fit any reasonable criteria alone which merits it solely being boycotted - their crimes are not the most egregious, they are not the only democracy committing crimes nor is an argument of economic effect/priority sustainable.

That being said, I would suggest you consider Lynch&#039;s suggestion that &quot;it might work&quot; in the case of Israel.  What criteria is being used to judge why it might work in the case of Israel and not in other cases?

You see Lynch talk about immunity for crimes leading to repetition etc.  But you don&#039;t see him talk about real practical immunity for international crimes eg. held by those who have veto power in the UNSC.  

I haven&#039;t seen him propose an academic boycott of say the US, the UK (his own country incidentally), France, Russia or China despite these countries all committing crimes that far outweight those of Israel.  Why?  

I suspect that such a proposal would never be made because academics know the repercussions of such a step - they would suffer significant retaliation which would impact on their career and damage (possibly irreparably) their credibility.

This to me is where the hypocrisy is truly realised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure but I think Lynch was suggesting that he wasn&#8217;t oblivious to human rights abuses in Iraq etc while boycotting S Africa which indicates that he was concerned.  </p>
<p>Anyway, to respond to your point about why they should have been concerned &#8211; simply because if you have a respect for human rights it should be applied to all people, not selectively.  If you are going to take a moral/ethical stand then you need to apply it fairly and equitably.  </p>
<p>Human rights activism shouldn&#8217;t be like a candy store &#8211; people picking their personal favourites and ignoring the ones they don&#8217;t like.  Nor should the argument of not being able to address all issues be used &#8211; what criteria is used (which is moral/ethicial) to then determine who gets priority?  </p>
<p>Israel wouldn&#8217;t fit any reasonable criteria alone which merits it solely being boycotted &#8211; their crimes are not the most egregious, they are not the only democracy committing crimes nor is an argument of economic effect/priority sustainable.</p>
<p>That being said, I would suggest you consider Lynch&#8217;s suggestion that &#8220;it might work&#8221; in the case of Israel.  What criteria is being used to judge why it might work in the case of Israel and not in other cases?</p>
<p>You see Lynch talk about immunity for crimes leading to repetition etc.  But you don&#8217;t see him talk about real practical immunity for international crimes eg. held by those who have veto power in the UNSC.  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen him propose an academic boycott of say the US, the UK (his own country incidentally), France, Russia or China despite these countries all committing crimes that far outweight those of Israel.  Why?  </p>
<p>I suspect that such a proposal would never be made because academics know the repercussions of such a step &#8211; they would suffer significant retaliation which would impact on their career and damage (possibly irreparably) their credibility.</p>
<p>This to me is where the hypocrisy is truly realised.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Holloway</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3962</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike some other people here, I have no problem with boycotting Israel. I don&#039;t think that such a decision is hypocritical solely by virtue of the fact that there are other countries with human rights abuses that trump those of the Zionist state. As Jake rightly pointed out, I don&#039;t think anybody was so concerned about the situation in Iraq while they were boycotting South Africa, and I don&#039;t see why they should have been.

That said, the academic boycott of Israel is despicable hypocrisy at its very lowest. If you want to boycott Israel, go without something that &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t want. The first things to get boycotted are always the arts and academia. This is because the average boycotter is too lazy to appreciate foreign films and to stupid to engage with ideas.

There is a long list of Israeli-made products that you can let yourself go without; I advise you to find it and follow it. Stay out of the universities, and let those of us who know how to learn do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike some other people here, I have no problem with boycotting Israel. I don&#8217;t think that such a decision is hypocritical solely by virtue of the fact that there are other countries with human rights abuses that trump those of the Zionist state. As Jake rightly pointed out, I don&#8217;t think anybody was so concerned about the situation in Iraq while they were boycotting South Africa, and I don&#8217;t see why they should have been.</p>
<p>That said, the academic boycott of Israel is despicable hypocrisy at its very lowest. If you want to boycott Israel, go without something that <i>you</i> don&#8217;t want. The first things to get boycotted are always the arts and academia. This is because the average boycotter is too lazy to appreciate foreign films and to stupid to engage with ideas.</p>
<p>There is a long list of Israeli-made products that you can let yourself go without; I advise you to find it and follow it. Stay out of the universities, and let those of us who know how to learn do so.</p>
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		<title>By: frosh</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3960</link>
		<dc:creator>frosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake Lynch,

Since you have admitted that your boycott is one of expediency, rather than principle, I have a couple of questions for you.

1) What evidence do you have that an academic boycott will lead to a peaceful resolution in Middle East?  It seems the onus is on the boycotter to demonstrate this, given that there is an admission that boycott is driven by expedient motives.

2) Exactly how expedient are you?  If an Israeli university were to develop a vaccine to Malaria, would you recommend that people in Malaria infested parts of the world boycott this vaccine?  If an Israeli university were to develop a revolutionary cure for cancer that eclipsed all existing treatments, would you recommend friends and family members boycott it?   How would you justify your decision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake Lynch,</p>
<p>Since you have admitted that your boycott is one of expediency, rather than principle, I have a couple of questions for you.</p>
<p>1) What evidence do you have that an academic boycott will lead to a peaceful resolution in Middle East?  It seems the onus is on the boycotter to demonstrate this, given that there is an admission that boycott is driven by expedient motives.</p>
<p>2) Exactly how expedient are you?  If an Israeli university were to develop a vaccine to Malaria, would you recommend that people in Malaria infested parts of the world boycott this vaccine?  If an Israeli university were to develop a revolutionary cure for cancer that eclipsed all existing treatments, would you recommend friends and family members boycott it?   How would you justify your decision?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Lynch</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/1753/israel-boycotters-are-hypocrites/#comment-3957</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I picture apologists for Israel&#039;s serial breaches of international law, like Michael Danby, huddling together in an overheated room somewhere, getting terribly excited when they feel they&#039;ve hit upon a particularly convincing argument, and sallying forth into the real world, certain it&#039;s going to prove persuasive, only to stumble over the one obvious point they forgot. 

I&#039;ll let him down gently, then. He may be amazed to learn that, when I was going around, persuading people to boycott South Africa in the 1980s, I was not wholly oblivious to the human rights abuses being endured by the people of Iraq, El Salvador and many others. 

In the words of Naomi Klein, boycott is not a dogma: it&#039;s a tactic. The reason for trying it on Israel is that it might work, which is why Danby and his ilk are getting so uptight about it. 

Israel presently enjoys impunity for its crimes, which incentivises repetition. End the impunity through BDS and it becomes clear that carrying on the brutal and illegal occupation of Palestinian territory is not in Israel&#039;s interests. That would be a first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picture apologists for Israel&#8217;s serial breaches of international law, like Michael Danby, huddling together in an overheated room somewhere, getting terribly excited when they feel they&#8217;ve hit upon a particularly convincing argument, and sallying forth into the real world, certain it&#8217;s going to prove persuasive, only to stumble over the one obvious point they forgot. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let him down gently, then. He may be amazed to learn that, when I was going around, persuading people to boycott South Africa in the 1980s, I was not wholly oblivious to the human rights abuses being endured by the people of Iraq, El Salvador and many others. </p>
<p>In the words of Naomi Klein, boycott is not a dogma: it&#8217;s a tactic. The reason for trying it on Israel is that it might work, which is why Danby and his ilk are getting so uptight about it. </p>
<p>Israel presently enjoys impunity for its crimes, which incentivises repetition. End the impunity through BDS and it becomes clear that carrying on the brutal and illegal occupation of Palestinian territory is not in Israel&#8217;s interests. That would be a first.</p>
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		<title>By: If Israel calls itself a democracy it has to act like one &#124; Antony Loewenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>If Israel calls itself a democracy it has to act like one &#124; Antony Loewenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the targeted boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign against Israel, Labor MP Michael Danby responds: Antony Loewenstein and Jake Lynch (The Australian, Letters blog, 22 September) criticise Philip [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitted by jewbious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by jewbious</dc:creator>
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