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		<title>By: Leo Braun</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4406</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was not long ago that a Jew could not get a job in Europe or even the United States. On the other hand, a proliferation of Jews serving in world parliaments would undoubtedly lend further credence to the myth of the &#039;Jewish cabal&#039;, the &#039;Zionist lobby&#039; and the &#039;Elders of Zion&#039; which are hell-bent on world domination&quot;! [&lt;a href=&quot;http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ariel&lt;/a&gt;]

• Luckily Jewish Philosopher Hannah Arendt&lt;/a&gt; survived to point-out: &quot;Where indeed, was there a better proof of the fantastic concept as a Jewish world government than in this one family -- the Rothschilds. Nationals of five different countries (in close co-operation with at least three different governments), whose frequent conflicts never for the moment shook the solidarity of interests of their state bankers. No propaganda could have created the symbol more effective for political purposes than the reality itself&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was not long ago that a Jew could not get a job in Europe or even the United States. On the other hand, a proliferation of Jews serving in world parliaments would undoubtedly lend further credence to the myth of the &#8216;Jewish cabal&#8217;, the &#8216;Zionist lobby&#8217; and the &#8216;Elders of Zion&#8217; which are hell-bent on world domination&#8221;! [<a href="http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma" rel="nofollow">Ariel</a>]</p>
<p>• Luckily Jewish Philosopher Hannah Arendt survived to point-out: &#8220;Where indeed, was there a better proof of the fantastic concept as a Jewish world government than in this one family &#8212; the Rothschilds. Nationals of five different countries (in close co-operation with at least three different governments), whose frequent conflicts never for the moment shook the solidarity of interests of their state bankers. No propaganda could have created the symbol more effective for political purposes than the reality itself&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Braun</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4184</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Isaac Isaacs was not widely accepted at the time of his nomination&quot;! Wasn&#039;t because he was sharp critic of the Zionist enterprise? Quoted to voice: &quot;The very idea of a Jewish state is absurd, unjust, and ultimately untenable, since it makes all non-Jewish citizens necessarily and inevitably second-class citizens&quot;! At the time when Monash was certainly much more open about his support of the Zionist cause. Nonetheless Monash wasn&#039;t offered the Governor-Generalship, well his name didn&#039;t proclaim: &quot;I&#039;m Jewish&quot;! At least when Zionist establishment asked him to become their Honorary President, he agreed, and took the job quite seriously.

Needless to add, that not for the fault of their own, the overwhelming majority people couldn&#039;t see the forest for the trees and thus failed to grasp that the ruling class was exclusively &lt;a href=&quot;http://originofnations.org/Royals/queens%20descent/The%20Queen&#039;s%20Royal%20Descent%20from%20King%20David%20of%20Judah.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chosen&lt;/a&gt; elite occupied. Headed by the Governor General, who asserted: &quot;I promise to be alive, open, responsive and faithful to the contemporary thinking and working of Australian society&quot;! Only to tour on a mission and gather support for Australia&#039;s bid to secure a non-permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, and thus Zionist glorious victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Isaac Isaacs was not widely accepted at the time of his nomination&#8221;! Wasn&#8217;t because he was sharp critic of the Zionist enterprise? Quoted to voice: &#8220;The very idea of a Jewish state is absurd, unjust, and ultimately untenable, since it makes all non-Jewish citizens necessarily and inevitably second-class citizens&#8221;! At the time when Monash was certainly much more open about his support of the Zionist cause. Nonetheless Monash wasn&#8217;t offered the Governor-Generalship, well his name didn&#8217;t proclaim: &#8220;I&#8217;m Jewish&#8221;! At least when Zionist establishment asked him to become their Honorary President, he agreed, and took the job quite seriously.</p>
<p>Needless to add, that not for the fault of their own, the overwhelming majority people couldn&#8217;t see the forest for the trees and thus failed to grasp that the ruling class was exclusively <a href="http://originofnations.org/Royals/queens%20descent/The%20Queen's%20Royal%20Descent%20from%20King%20David%20of%20Judah.htm" rel="nofollow">chosen</a> elite occupied. Headed by the Governor General, who asserted: &#8220;I promise to be alive, open, responsive and faithful to the contemporary thinking and working of Australian society&#8221;! Only to tour on a mission and gather support for Australia&#8217;s bid to secure a non-permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, and thus Zionist glorious victory.</p>
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		<title>By: Yitzchak</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4158</link>
		<dc:creator>Yitzchak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have to agree with Larry Stillman intellectually, I know exactly the feeling Ariel is describing.
Larry, the truth is that unless we are seen as secular Jews, we are regarded as outsiders whose observances are impenetrable to others. I still remember my shock at being told by my neighbour, an English migrant, that he felt so sorry for me to be a third-generation Australian but never able to belong.
By the way, Isaac Isaacs was not widely accepted at the time of his nomination - is there not a letter from London to the PM of the day asking why he persists with his nomination of Isaac Isaacs as the GG and reporting that the King felt that such an appointment could only give encouragement to the Jews, communists and socialists?
Just a final comment - when the British Government set up an inquiry into antisemitism a few years ago, the Chairman was a non-Jewish member of the Commoms. One of his colleagues expressed surprise that he hadn&#039;t realised that he was a Jew. After all, no-one but a Jew could possibly be interested in antisemitism - I mean, bugger human rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have to agree with Larry Stillman intellectually, I know exactly the feeling Ariel is describing.<br />
Larry, the truth is that unless we are seen as secular Jews, we are regarded as outsiders whose observances are impenetrable to others. I still remember my shock at being told by my neighbour, an English migrant, that he felt so sorry for me to be a third-generation Australian but never able to belong.<br />
By the way, Isaac Isaacs was not widely accepted at the time of his nomination &#8211; is there not a letter from London to the PM of the day asking why he persists with his nomination of Isaac Isaacs as the GG and reporting that the King felt that such an appointment could only give encouragement to the Jews, communists and socialists?<br />
Just a final comment &#8211; when the British Government set up an inquiry into antisemitism a few years ago, the Chairman was a non-Jewish member of the Commoms. One of his colleagues expressed surprise that he hadn&#8217;t realised that he was a Jew. After all, no-one but a Jew could possibly be interested in antisemitism &#8211; I mean, bugger human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Braun</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4152</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When it comes to this subject, &lt;b&gt;I feel a great rupture between my intellect and emotions;&lt;/b&gt; between my acceptance of the reality of the world in which we live and my ideas of how the world should be; and between the different aspects of each of these faculties&quot;! Indoctrinated to believe that of a greater ethical importance was to condemn the prejudices against one&#039;s own people, than that against all the others, written-off as Gentiles. In fact precluded in their own countries from asking &lt;a href=&quot;http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/who-is-a-jew-and-the-tyranny-of-halacha/#comment-2614&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;imperative questions&lt;/a&gt; in the era of universal deceit. 

Whilst not a day passing by, without a Jewish lobby, newspaper, television or radio pundit to ask: &quot;Is it good for the Jews&quot;? Obviously, because of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://sensiblejew.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/les-rosenblatt-writes-about-expressing-unpopular-opinions-at-the-ramadge-address/#comment-2744&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;innate affinity&lt;/a&gt;, naturally felt by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://sensiblejew.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/a-night-at-the-plenum/#comment-2720&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jews&lt;/a&gt;, who belonged to the same species. Indicative of the authentic source, Jewish people intuitive connection, inherited naturally at birth.

&lt;b&gt;Unfortunately exploited for the wrong reasons!&lt;/b&gt;

Where besides the survivors of the hard knocks, unless one was jolted by the first-hand experience on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/death%e2%80%a6the-next-move&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;receiving end&lt;/a&gt;, there is actually no panacea for the brainwashed category, at long last to come out of their shell. Hence no rational deliberation as to the common denominator of the Jew dilemma eventuated as yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When it comes to this subject, <b>I feel a great rupture between my intellect and emotions;</b> between my acceptance of the reality of the world in which we live and my ideas of how the world should be; and between the different aspects of each of these faculties&#8221;! Indoctrinated to believe that of a greater ethical importance was to condemn the prejudices against one&#8217;s own people, than that against all the others, written-off as Gentiles. In fact precluded in their own countries from asking <a href="http://galusaustralis.com/2009/07/who-is-a-jew-and-the-tyranny-of-halacha/#comment-2614" rel="nofollow">imperative questions</a> in the era of universal deceit. </p>
<p>Whilst not a day passing by, without a Jewish lobby, newspaper, television or radio pundit to ask: &#8220;Is it good for the Jews&#8221;? Obviously, because of the <a href="http://sensiblejew.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/les-rosenblatt-writes-about-expressing-unpopular-opinions-at-the-ramadge-address/#comment-2744" rel="nofollow">innate affinity</a>, naturally felt by the <a href="http://sensiblejew.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/a-night-at-the-plenum/#comment-2720" rel="nofollow">Jews</a>, who belonged to the same species. Indicative of the authentic source, Jewish people intuitive connection, inherited naturally at birth.</p>
<p><b>Unfortunately exploited for the wrong reasons!</b></p>
<p>Where besides the survivors of the hard knocks, unless one was jolted by the first-hand experience on the <a href="http://galusaustralis.com/2009/09/death%e2%80%a6the-next-move" rel="nofollow">receiving end</a>, there is actually no panacea for the brainwashed category, at long last to come out of their shell. Hence no rational deliberation as to the common denominator of the Jew dilemma eventuated as yet.</p>
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		<title>By: ariel</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saducee,

I would say that Israel is in a unique situation in that its very existence is being questioned. Nobody questions the right of existence of Spain because of the Basque issue and nobody even questions the right of existence of everybody&#039;s favourite democracy, Zimbabwe!
Winston Churchill bombed 1000s of civilians in Dresden from the air and was hailed as a hero of the free world!! 

So it&#039;s left to prominent Jews to defend Israel from delgitimisation and demonisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saducee,</p>
<p>I would say that Israel is in a unique situation in that its very existence is being questioned. Nobody questions the right of existence of Spain because of the Basque issue and nobody even questions the right of existence of everybody&#8217;s favourite democracy, Zimbabwe!<br />
Winston Churchill bombed 1000s of civilians in Dresden from the air and was hailed as a hero of the free world!! </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s left to prominent Jews to defend Israel from delgitimisation and demonisation.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSadducee</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSadducee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ariel

Do you think that any of the criticisms of Israel are valid?  Or are you suggesting that Danby only defends/confronts illegitimate criticisms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ariel</p>
<p>Do you think that any of the criticisms of Israel are valid?  Or are you suggesting that Danby only defends/confronts illegitimate criticisms?</p>
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		<title>By: TheSadducee</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSadducee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frosh

I&#039;m not defending Leo McLeay - he has his own opinions (I don&#039;t agree with them) and possibly these reflect that of his constituency (I don&#039;t think you can be certain of this).  I would note that he was the rep for Lakemba back in 2004 - I sort of expected that we were talking about 2009 and the current member.

Anyways - I feel like I&#039;m becoming a bit of a lightning-rod here!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frosh</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending Leo McLeay &#8211; he has his own opinions (I don&#8217;t agree with them) and possibly these reflect that of his constituency (I don&#8217;t think you can be certain of this).  I would note that he was the rep for Lakemba back in 2004 &#8211; I sort of expected that we were talking about 2009 and the current member.</p>
<p>Anyways &#8211; I feel like I&#8217;m becoming a bit of a lightning-rod here!  <img src='http://galusaustralis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ariel</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

Wong was born in Malaysia, but she is ethnic Chinese, as I mentioned in my article. Minorities get a bit of a bad rap over there, as do all non-Muslims.

Saducee,

It comes back around to the question of whether Danby would have to defend Israel so much if it weren&#039;t being attacked so often! Nobody attacks Spain because of the Basques so nobody defends it.
Nobody attacks Italy as being a nation of paedophiles and sex fiends just because of the accusations against Berlusconi. Thus, we don&#039;t see the likes of Joe Tripodi, Frank Sartor or John Della-Bosca having to come out and defend Italy from delgitimisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Wong was born in Malaysia, but she is ethnic Chinese, as I mentioned in my article. Minorities get a bit of a bad rap over there, as do all non-Muslims.</p>
<p>Saducee,</p>
<p>It comes back around to the question of whether Danby would have to defend Israel so much if it weren&#8217;t being attacked so often! Nobody attacks Spain because of the Basques so nobody defends it.<br />
Nobody attacks Italy as being a nation of paedophiles and sex fiends just because of the accusations against Berlusconi. Thus, we don&#8217;t see the likes of Joe Tripodi, Frank Sartor or John Della-Bosca having to come out and defend Italy from delgitimisation.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSadducee</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/10/1844/jews-in-politics-a-diaspora-dilemma/#comment-4140</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSadducee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rachsd

I would suggest that Melbourne Ports electorate is not a majority Jewish electorate but rather majority Christian electorate esp. Catholic.  (Check the census data)  Do you see Danby spending extensive periods of time addressing Catholic issues?

Why is that?  

I&#039;m not saying there is anything wrong with representing interests of your constituents, I&#039;m suggesting that there is a point that Danby has well passed which reflects his own interest in the topic and that of a like-minded minority, rather than that of his constituency overall which would probably be rather apathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rachsd</p>
<p>I would suggest that Melbourne Ports electorate is not a majority Jewish electorate but rather majority Christian electorate esp. Catholic.  (Check the census data)  Do you see Danby spending extensive periods of time addressing Catholic issues?</p>
<p>Why is that?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying there is anything wrong with representing interests of your constituents, I&#8217;m suggesting that there is a point that Danby has well passed which reflects his own interest in the topic and that of a like-minded minority, rather than that of his constituency overall which would probably be rather apathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSadducee</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheSadducee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frosh

I suspect you picked Lakemba because it has a large Muslim population (I believe it might be the 2nd largest in NSW) and you automatically equated this to it impacting on its representatives in an anti-Israel manner.  I can&#039;t prove my suspicion but I can&#039;t see any other reason as to why you brought it up.

Additionally, I&#039;m not advocating that there is a nefarious lobby group of any kind.  AIJAC is not nefarious by any stretch of the imagination and it openly lobbies government reps.  

What I read from your comments was that government reps in areas with large numbers of Jewish constituents will reflect the sentiments of this constituency.  If they are sympathetic to Israel, then I would consider it a lobby that advocates for Israel and influences it representative.  You posited the example of Danby in Melbourne Ports and Clinton in New York - I think they accurately reflect my understanding.  

I see it as being unhealthy, in the case of Danby, because he goes well outside of the party/government policy/platform on the topic and spends a significant proportion of his time dealing with I/P related matters - as Larry noted earlier there are a number of valid objections to his actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frosh</p>
<p>I suspect you picked Lakemba because it has a large Muslim population (I believe it might be the 2nd largest in NSW) and you automatically equated this to it impacting on its representatives in an anti-Israel manner.  I can&#8217;t prove my suspicion but I can&#8217;t see any other reason as to why you brought it up.</p>
<p>Additionally, I&#8217;m not advocating that there is a nefarious lobby group of any kind.  AIJAC is not nefarious by any stretch of the imagination and it openly lobbies government reps.  </p>
<p>What I read from your comments was that government reps in areas with large numbers of Jewish constituents will reflect the sentiments of this constituency.  If they are sympathetic to Israel, then I would consider it a lobby that advocates for Israel and influences it representative.  You posited the example of Danby in Melbourne Ports and Clinton in New York &#8211; I think they accurately reflect my understanding.  </p>
<p>I see it as being unhealthy, in the case of Danby, because he goes well outside of the party/government policy/platform on the topic and spends a significant proportion of his time dealing with I/P related matters &#8211; as Larry noted earlier there are a number of valid objections to his actions.</p>
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