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	<title>Comments on: Ask Izzy #4: Simcha Circle Conundrum</title>
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		<title>By: Carly</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2212/ask-izzy-4-simcha-circle-conundrum/#comment-4755</link>
		<dc:creator>Carly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had an LLFF at our wedding in Israel. He didn&#039;t join in the dancing, but he had the chutzpa to join in with the family photographs at the end of the wedding. Somehow none of us noticed his presence until we actually had the printed photos and saw his face appearing unexpectedly in the most inappropriate places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had an LLFF at our wedding in Israel. He didn&#8217;t join in the dancing, but he had the chutzpa to join in with the family photographs at the end of the wedding. Somehow none of us noticed his presence until we actually had the printed photos and saw his face appearing unexpectedly in the most inappropriate places.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Philip, 
I can empathize completely with you. In fact I am going to a wedding in the new year and I am already worried that I might be a bit shy to push myself into the inner circle of the hora dancing. I sometimes wake up in the  night in a bit of a sweat worrying that I might just be on the outskirts clapping to the beat when I really should be dancing as would be normal for the father of the groom.
Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Philip,<br />
I can empathize completely with you. In fact I am going to a wedding in the new year and I am already worried that I might be a bit shy to push myself into the inner circle of the hora dancing. I sometimes wake up in the  night in a bit of a sweat worrying that I might just be on the outskirts clapping to the beat when I really should be dancing as would be normal for the father of the groom.<br />
Sam</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasid</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hasid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip, there&#039;s one at every simcha.

You know, the long lost family friend (LLFF) that went to uni with the bride&#039;s mum and reappears sporadically at functions that involve free food? (She&#039;s often wearing a pantsuit from the late 80s. The same one she wore to your older brother&#039;s bar-mitzvah.)

And yet, despite the tenuous family connection, she dives into the festivities head first, literally throwing herself into a private dance with the bride at the centre of the hora circle!

I love the LLFF. They bring a little colour and amusement to every simcha. I think they should be mandatory. You should be able to hire a posse of them, the way some ethnic groups hire people to cry at funerals.

Philip - I think that business could be your calling! It would also be an excellent way to overcome your horror of the hora. (Har, har.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, there&#8217;s one at every simcha.</p>
<p>You know, the long lost family friend (LLFF) that went to uni with the bride&#8217;s mum and reappears sporadically at functions that involve free food? (She&#8217;s often wearing a pantsuit from the late 80s. The same one she wore to your older brother&#8217;s bar-mitzvah.)</p>
<p>And yet, despite the tenuous family connection, she dives into the festivities head first, literally throwing herself into a private dance with the bride at the centre of the hora circle!</p>
<p>I love the LLFF. They bring a little colour and amusement to every simcha. I think they should be mandatory. You should be able to hire a posse of them, the way some ethnic groups hire people to cry at funerals.</p>
<p>Philip &#8211; I think that business could be your calling! It would also be an excellent way to overcome your horror of the hora. (Har, har.)</p>
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		<title>By: frosh</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2212/ask-izzy-4-simcha-circle-conundrum/#comment-4535</link>
		<dc:creator>frosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi RachSD,

I think you&#039;re missing the point.  As far as I am aware, at Anglo-Australian weddings, there is no hora/circle dancing, so it doesn&#039;t apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RachSD,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point.  As far as I am aware, at Anglo-Australian weddings, there is no hora/circle dancing, so it doesn&#8217;t apply.</p>
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		<title>By: rachsd</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frosh,

I find your analogy to Japanese culture interesting, but I&#039;m not sure how &#039;Jewish&#039; Philip&#039;s sentiment is. In Australian Jewish wedding culture, I would think of reticence to join the middle circles as more of an Anglo-Australian sentiment than a Jewish one, and am not sure that there really are such rigid heirarchies in the dancing circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frosh,</p>
<p>I find your analogy to Japanese culture interesting, but I&#8217;m not sure how &#8216;Jewish&#8217; Philip&#8217;s sentiment is. In Australian Jewish wedding culture, I would think of reticence to join the middle circles as more of an Anglo-Australian sentiment than a Jewish one, and am not sure that there really are such rigid heirarchies in the dancing circles.</p>
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		<title>By: frosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>frosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Philip,

The fabric of Japanese society is often described as being a set of concentric circles, where one has different social obligations to others depending on what circle they fall in, relative to one’s own circle.

However, as revealed by your question, while these concentric circles may be an abstract notion in Japanese society, they are actually physically manifested in Jewish society in the form of the hora that takes place at a simcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Philip,</p>
<p>The fabric of Japanese society is often described as being a set of concentric circles, where one has different social obligations to others depending on what circle they fall in, relative to one’s own circle.</p>
<p>However, as revealed by your question, while these concentric circles may be an abstract notion in Japanese society, they are actually physically manifested in Jewish society in the form of the hora that takes place at a simcha.</p>
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