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		<title>By: GalusAustralis</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5212</link>
		<dc:creator>GalusAustralis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Barnett</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5205</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A word to the Galus Australis moderators.
 
Why do you tolerate anti-gay bile and gay bashing on your site?  Would you tolerate anti-Jewish sentiments?
 
Michael.

&lt;em&gt;Ed: With over 270 comments for this article so far, I can assure you we haven&#039;t read all of them (or even a majority of them).  If there is a particular comment that someone feels has crossed the line, they are welcome to bring it to our attention via email, and we can discuss that comment on its merits.  As it happens, we have already erased a couple of anti-gay comments that we felt had crossed the line.
As for tolerating anti-Jewish sentiments, I believe we have permitted all of Bruce Llama&#039;s comments up to now, some which some of our readers may have felt expressed ant-Jewish sentiments.  And this is just one example.  See some of the other articles to find comments that could also be described as anti-Jewish.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A word to the Galus Australis moderators.<br />
 <br />
Why do you tolerate anti-gay bile and gay bashing on your site?  Would you tolerate anti-Jewish sentiments?<br />
 <br />
Michael.</p>
<p><em>Ed: With over 270 comments for this article so far, I can assure you we haven&#8217;t read all of them (or even a majority of them).  If there is a particular comment that someone feels has crossed the line, they are welcome to bring it to our attention via email, and we can discuss that comment on its merits.  As it happens, we have already erased a couple of anti-gay comments that we felt had crossed the line.<br />
As for tolerating anti-Jewish sentiments, I believe we have permitted all of Bruce Llama&#8217;s comments up to now, some which some of our readers may have felt expressed ant-Jewish sentiments.  And this is just one example.  See some of the other articles to find comments that could also be described as anti-Jewish.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Barnett</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5204</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
I don’t know that guys go in for anal sex with girls and you can’t know this as you are gay.
However, I do know that normal Jewish guys and girls do not stoop to sodomy.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
Just because you don&#039;t know something doesn&#039;t mean it doesn&#039;t happen.  Take it from me, it goes on, and my sexuality doesn&#039;t prevent me from knowing this .  Yours might.  Besides, I supplied information earlier outlining that heterosexual couples have been engaging in anal sex for thousands of years.
 
Of course, you would know what &quot;normal&quot; Jewish guys and girls do to each other because you have asked them all to tell you what sort of sex they have.  I bet that was fun.  I hope you weren&#039;t touching yourself inappropriately at the time.
 
Interesting discussion topic, although it has deviated from the main issue of psychological abuse due to religious intolerance, much like what you are showing us so clearly.
 
Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
 </p>
<blockquote><p>
I don’t know that guys go in for anal sex with girls and you can’t know this as you are gay.<br />
However, I do know that normal Jewish guys and girls do not stoop to sodomy.
</p></blockquote>
<p> <br />
Just because you don&#8217;t know something doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t happen.  Take it from me, it goes on, and my sexuality doesn&#8217;t prevent me from knowing this .  Yours might.  Besides, I supplied information earlier outlining that heterosexual couples have been engaging in anal sex for thousands of years.<br />
 <br />
Of course, you would know what &#8220;normal&#8221; Jewish guys and girls do to each other because you have asked them all to tell you what sort of sex they have.  I bet that was fun.  I hope you weren&#8217;t touching yourself inappropriately at the time.<br />
 <br />
Interesting discussion topic, although it has deviated from the main issue of psychological abuse due to religious intolerance, much like what you are showing us so clearly.<br />
 <br />
Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5190</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Re your last post: &quot;You and I both know guys and girls get into that as well.    &quot;

I don&#039;t know that guys go in for anal sex with girls and you can&#039;t know this as you are gay.

However, I do know that normal Jewish guys and girls do not stoop to sodomy.    
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Re your last post: &#8220;You and I both know guys and girls get into that as well.    &#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that guys go in for anal sex with girls and you can&#8217;t know this as you are gay.</p>
<p>However, I do know that normal Jewish guys and girls do not stoop to sodomy.    <br />
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		<title>By: Michael Barnett</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5181</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
 
It&#039;s hypocritical of you to not disapprove of men having anal sex with women whilst you disapprove of men having anal sex with men.
 
Effectively you are endorsing anal sex between a man and a woman because you aren&#039;t speaking out against it.  You and I both know guys and girls get into that as well.  ;-)
 
Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
 <br />
It&#8217;s hypocritical of you to not disapprove of men having anal sex with women whilst you disapprove of men having anal sex with men.<br />
 <br />
Effectively you are endorsing anal sex between a man and a woman because you aren&#8217;t speaking out against it.  You and I both know guys and girls get into that as well.  <img src='http://galusaustralis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
 <br />
Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

That is ok, so long as you understand that it is no naches for Jewish parents to know that, instead of raising a family, their son is engaging in anal sex with a man. Don&#039;t mistake their expressions of  hurt as intolerance or abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>That is ok, so long as you understand that it is no naches for Jewish parents to know that, instead of raising a family, their son is engaging in anal sex with a man. Don&#8217;t mistake their expressions of  hurt as intolerance or abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Barnett</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you make some truly magnificent and dazzling assumptions.  I am in awe of your prowess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you make some truly magnificent and dazzling assumptions.  I am in awe of your prowess.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5173</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I take your comments as a compliment. 

I trust you can now appreciate the difference between concern and disapproval on the part of parents and others over &quot;sex&quot;, to wit sodomy, between men and your notions of  intolerance and abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I take your comments as a compliment. </p>
<p>I trust you can now appreciate the difference between concern and disapproval on the part of parents and others over &#8221;sex&#8221;, to wit sodomy, between men and your notions of  intolerance and abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you&#039;re a beacon of intellectual enlightenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you&#8217;re a beacon of intellectual enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://galusaustralis.com/2009/11/2270/confronting-the-last-taboo-orthodox-judaism-and-homosexuality/#comment-5164</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael

&quot;Irrespective of who does or doesn’t have a problem with male to male sex, it doesn’t diminish the problem of abuse caused by the intolerance.&quot; 

What do you understand by &quot;intolerance&quot; of male to male sex, to wit sodomy (which, as most people understand it, is central to the way homosexual men have sex).

If a parent, grandparent, sibling, friend or other members of society react to sodomy in any way other than condoning it, do you regard that as &quot;abuse&quot;?

It is perfectly understandable that a parent (or, as in your case,  grandparent) feels heartbroken on learning that his or her child-grandchild is a deviant from the norm in respect of a central aspect of their being, their sexuality. It is even more troubling for them to contemplate their son-gradson engaging in sodomy with another man. As a gay person, it is possibly difficult for you to understand the deep hurt felt by parents on learning that their child is gay. In  one of your earlier postings you confided that, along with most gay men, you enjoyed &quot;a good romp&quot;.  Most mature heterosexual men and women look beyond the romp. Their ultimate goal is a permanent loving relationship and having chidren, not through an IVH &quot;agency&quot; which arranges egg and  sperm from strangers and surrogate &quot;mothers&quot; to have the babies - all paid for - naturally as a union of their genes.

I wish you could try to understand society&#039;s attitudes on  male to male sex as concern or disapproval rather than &quot;abuse&quot;.  Disapproval is not the same as &quot;intolerance &quot; or  &quot;abuse&quot;.   

You cannot expect society to applaud  male to male liaisons expressed in sodomy.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael</p>
<p>&#8220;Irrespective of who does or doesn’t have a problem with male to male sex, it doesn’t diminish the problem of abuse caused by the intolerance.&#8221; </p>
<p>What do you understand by &#8220;intolerance&#8221; of male to male sex, to wit sodomy (which, as most people understand it, is central to the way homosexual men have sex).</p>
<p>If a parent, grandparent, sibling, friend or other members of society react to sodomy in any way other than condoning it, do you regard that as &#8220;abuse&#8221;?</p>
<p>It is perfectly understandable that a parent (or, as in your case,  grandparent) feels heartbroken on learning that his or her child-grandchild is a deviant from the norm in respect of a central aspect of their being, their sexuality. It is even more troubling for them to contemplate their son-gradson engaging in sodomy with another man. As a gay person, it is possibly difficult for you to understand the deep hurt felt by parents on learning that their child is gay. In  one of your earlier postings you confided that, along with most gay men, you enjoyed &#8220;a good romp&#8221;.  Most mature heterosexual men and women look beyond the romp. Their ultimate goal is a permanent loving relationship and having chidren, not through an IVH &#8220;agency&#8221; which arranges egg and  sperm from strangers and surrogate &#8220;mothers&#8221; to have the babies &#8211; all paid for - naturally as a union of their genes.</p>
<p>I wish you could try to understand society&#8217;s attitudes on  male to male sex as concern or disapproval rather than &#8220;abuse&#8221;.  Disapproval is not the same as &#8221;intolerance &#8221; or  &#8220;abuse&#8221;.   </p>
<p>You cannot expect society to applaud  male to male liaisons expressed in sodomy.    </p>
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