Comments on: And now a word from a concerned neighbour‏… http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/ Jewish Life in Australia Mon, 21 May 2012 14:20:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Chaim http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5586 Chaim Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:05:19 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5586 The Sadducee: I agree...   Henry: I don't think he was actually thinking about Islamic laws when he actually attacked the the Rabbi and actually outright aimed to bite off the finger.. He actually spat it out and did not chew it and swallow it. Why is it that nearly all conflicts in the world these days involve Muslims? Is that racist to say too? What do you think his intention was? Environmental? Just not liking light or latkes? p.s the latkes.. My wife made great latkes but way too much oil... Chanukah is really not a healthy festival for the body - maybe just the soul or maybe I am just a glutton and should have stopped after the second one...   The Sadducee: I agree…
 
Henry: I don’t think he was actually thinking about Islamic laws when he actually attacked the the Rabbi and actually outright aimed to bite off the finger.. He actually spat it out and did not chew it and swallow it. Why is it that nearly all conflicts in the world these days involve Muslims? Is that racist to say too? What do you think his intention was? Environmental? Just not liking light or latkes?
p.s the latkes.. My wife made great latkes but way too much oil… Chanukah is really not a healthy festival for the body – maybe just the soul or maybe I am just a glutton and should have stopped after the second one…
 

]]> By: Henry Herzog http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5574 Henry Herzog Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:01:31 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5574 That bloke in Vienna biting off the rabbi's finger couldn't be Muslim: Human flesh is trife to Muslims.  And, the way the report kept referring to the alleged perpetrator as the Muslim, I thought was a tad racist; reminds me of the Jew doing this and the Jew doing that. Just doesn't sound right in this day and age, although, mind you, it seams we are regressing some what, with Tony Abbott elected leader of the Liberals and all that. That bloke in Vienna biting off the rabbi’s finger couldn’t be Muslim: Human flesh is trife to Muslims.  And, the way the report kept referring to the alleged perpetrator as the Muslim, I thought was a tad racist; reminds me of the Jew doing this and the Jew doing that. Just doesn’t sound right in this day and age, although, mind you, it seams we are regressing some what, with Tony Abbott elected leader of the Liberals and all that.

]]> By: TheSadducee http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5573 TheSadducee Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:18:13 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5573 Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with them doing the public lightings - I think its a good thing because Jews who are not part of established communities might see it and get involved.  And there is certainly nothing to be ashamed about (usually) by normal expressions of our faith (except perhaps for kapporot).  However I'm concerned that they clearly can become a focus for malcontents and the people involved may be at risk.  Perhaps better coordination with local government authorities to provide security might be a good idea? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have a problem with them doing the public lightings – I think its a good thing because Jews who are not part of established communities might see it and get involved.  And there is certainly nothing to be ashamed about (usually) by normal expressions of our faith (except perhaps for kapporot).  However I’m concerned that they clearly can become a focus for malcontents and the people involved may be at risk.  Perhaps better coordination with local government authorities to provide security might be a good idea?

]]> By: Chaim http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5572 Chaim Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:40:15 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5572 Some people ascribe to <em>incognito, ergo sum</em> - I don't.   I believe non-Jews expect Jews to be proud and public Jews and not ashamed of it....   There will always be a few thugs at any party...   Some people ascribe to incognito, ergo sum – I don’t.
 
I believe non-Jews expect Jews to be proud and public Jews and not ashamed of it….
 
There will always be a few thugs at any party…
 

]]> By: TheSadducee http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5569 TheSadducee Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:00:07 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5569 The thing I didn't understand is why they bother to protest and/or cause trouble?  Surely the people involved don't think that they are going to actually achieve anything substantial or sway people to their way of thinking (eg. the neo-Nazis)?  I'm not so keen on the public lightings because of this very reason (it provides an opportunity for violence/disorder by hostile elements) but nonetheless the people doing this sort of thing aren't asking for this kind of trouble and certainly shouldn't be attacked etc.  Despicable stuff. The thing I didn’t understand is why they bother to protest and/or cause trouble?  Surely the people involved don’t think that they are going to actually achieve anything substantial or sway people to their way of thinking (eg. the neo-Nazis)? 

I’m not so keen on the public lightings because of this very reason (it provides an opportunity for violence/disorder by hostile elements) but nonetheless the people doing this sort of thing aren’t asking for this kind of trouble and certainly shouldn’t be attacked etc.  Despicable stuff.

]]> By: Chaim http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5566 Chaim Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:53:59 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5566 Not an exclusively Eastern European problem..   http://mysticalpaths.blogspot.com/2009/12/chabad-canary-in-coal-mine.html     Not an exclusively Eastern European problem..
 
http://mysticalpaths.blogspot.com/2009/12/chabad-canary-in-coal-mine.html
 
 

]]> By: TheSadducee http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5561 TheSadducee Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:41:26 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5561 I'd like to take the opportunity to ask my fellow Jewish brothers and sisters to pray for the Chabad rabbi who had his finger partially bitten off in a hate-attack in Vienna during Channukah the other day. <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134958" rel="nofollow">http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134958</a> I’d like to take the opportunity to ask my fellow Jewish brothers and sisters to pray for the Chabad rabbi who had his finger partially bitten off in a hate-attack in Vienna during Channukah the other day.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134958

]]> By: David Werdiger http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5520 David Werdiger Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:12:19 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5520 Sorry; just caught up on this (editors: subscriptions aren't working for me). Sadducee, Here's an important point about Chabad that should be mentioned. It is a very large, decentralized organization. That was the case even when the Rebbe was around. There is no central press office that does fact checking for media releases. Local shluchim have a large degree of autonomy regarding what they do and how they deal with local issues and other groups. Like any group, it has a specific philosophy and positions about certain issues relating to Judaism, and these are largely held in a consistent way by shluchim around the world (the exception to this last point would be the position regarding Moshiach, which has polarized Chabad itself in recent years - that has been discussed adequately in other posts on this site). To point to a few random issues all over the place and combine them to form a view about the organization as a whole, or say that they are representative/common practice of the organization is wrong, and reflects a misunderstanding of how such a large organization works in practice. Sorry; just caught up on this (editors: subscriptions aren’t working for me).

Sadducee,

Here’s an important point about Chabad that should be mentioned. It is a very large, decentralized organization. That was the case even when the Rebbe was around. There is no central press office that does fact checking for media releases. Local shluchim have a large degree of autonomy regarding what they do and how they deal with local issues and other groups. Like any group, it has a specific philosophy and positions about certain issues relating to Judaism, and these are largely held in a consistent way by shluchim around the world (the exception to this last point would be the position regarding Moshiach, which has polarized Chabad itself in recent years – that has been discussed adequately in other posts on this site).

To point to a few random issues all over the place and combine them to form a view about the organization as a whole, or say that they are representative/common practice of the organization is wrong, and reflects a misunderstanding of how such a large organization works in practice.

]]> By: Chaim http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5517 Chaim Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:26:50 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5517 The Sadducee: I forgot - Good Shabbos.   Henry: I was apologizing for his/her negative experience with Chabad. It is something I would like to learn from and try to  avoid.... perhaps at another time.... The Sadducee: I forgot – Good Shabbos.
 
Henry: I was apologizing for his/her negative experience with Chabad. It is something I would like to learn from and try to  avoid…. perhaps at another time….

]]> By: TheSadducee http://galusaustralis.com/2009/12/2490/and-now-a-word-from-a-concerned-neighbour%e2%80%8f/#comment-5515 TheSadducee Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:54:46 +0000 http://galusaustralis.com/?p=2490#comment-5515 Mr Herzog Not that it is any of your business, but I am Orthodox and recognised as such in my community.  (Please use a paperbag if you are hyperventilating) Mr Herzog

Not that it is any of your business, but I am Orthodox and recognised as such in my community. 

(Please use a paperbag if you are hyperventilating)

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